HERB 180 Trail – 2014

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Features

The HERB 180 TRAIL combines the qualities of a long travel enduro bike, a freerider and a bike park machine with full uphill capability – a do it all bike for riders with a strive for a little extra travel to ride in demanding terrain. Based on the super strong frame and prooven Lyrik forks this bike can handle some real riding with ease, supporting you with a great geometry. The 180 mm travel version of the HERB provides a slightly more linear characteristic which leads to a greater usage of the available travel, but ramps up smoothly towards the end of stroke to avoid bottoming out. The bike is composed to provide the latest technology, such as 11-speed X0 drivetrain with full range and lightweight 4-piston brakes. The wheels are hand build in house with Alexrims Supra30 rims, Sapim D-Light Spokes and DT Swiss Squorx Pro Lock aluminum nipples resulting in a sub 1750 g wheel set.

  • HERB 180 frame (V1.1) with rocker activated shock, 160/180 mm convertible by changinging the rockers, custom butted 7000 series lightweight aluminium tubing, sealed bearings with full complement bearings, 12 mm through axle with switchable 135/142/150 mm rear options
  • Rock Shox Monarch Plus RC3 high volume – solid performance on long descends due to the increased volume of the piggy back
  • Rock Shox Lyrik R2C Mission Control DH with solo air offering adjustability and performance
  • Sram X01 11-speed drivetrain with Type2 technology for a silent ride
  • Truvativ X01 crank set with 32T chainring, protected by a taco mounted to the ISCG
  • Avid X9 Trail  4-piston brake – powerfull and light
  • Kore OCD 800 mm wide and well shaped light handlebar combined with a short 50 mm Kore Repute stem
  • wheelset with Alexrims Supra30 rims on KORE Durox rear hub and Sram X9 front hub, in house build with double butted Sapim D-Light spokes and DT Swiss Squorx ProLock aluminum nipples

This bike can be ordered with upgrades, such as Rock Shox Vivid Air shock, Cleg disc brakes, custom suspension tuning by Flatout Suspension and parts of the HERB 180 SL model. To find out more about the available upgrades visit our online shop or contact us directly.

Spec
ModelHERB 180 TRAIL (2013)
frameHERB 180 (V1.1)
sizessmall, medium, large - for pictures of small and large frames see frame page
shockRock Shox Monarch Plus RC3 HV DebonAir, 216 x 63 mm, black, (picture shows old shock version)
optional shockRock Shox Vivid Air R2C, 216 x 63 mm
forkRock Shox Lyrik RC2 Mission Control DH, Solo Air, 170 mm
head setAcros AiSXE-22, stainless steel bearings, black (picture shows red)
stemKore Repute, 50 mm, black
optional stemKore Repute, 35 mm, black
handle bar Kore OCD, 800 mm wide, 20 mm rise, black
gripsKore Rivera, lock on, closed aluminium cap
brakesAvid Elixir 9 Trail, 200 mm front rotor, 180 mm rear rotor
derailleurSram X01, eleven speed
shifterSram X01, Trigger, eleven speed
cassetteSram XG1195, 10-42 T, eleven speed
chainSram PC1170 (picture shows PCXX1 chain)
crank and bottom bracketSram X01, eleven speed, 32 T, hollow forged aluminum
chain ring protectionTaco Guard, 7075 Aluminum, black
rimsAlexrims SUPRA30, welded, 32 hole, black
optional rimsZTR FlowEX, welded, 32 hole, black
spokesSapim D-Lite, 2,0 x 1,65 x 2,0, black
nipplesDT Swiss Squorx, Pro Lock, Pro Head, aluminum, black
front hubSRAM X9, 20 x 110 mm, black
rear hubKore Durox, 12x142 mm, XD-driver, 32 hole, black
tiresSchwalbe Hans Dampf, Evolution Line, Snake Skin, Trail Star Compond, 26 x 2,35"
optional tiresSchwalbe Magic Mary, Evolution Line, Supergravity, Trailstar compound, foldable, 26 x 2,35"
seat postKore, Twin Bolt, 31,6 x 350 mm, black
optional seat postRock Shox Reverb Stealth, 150 mm adjustabe, 31,6 x 430 mm
seatKore Frazer SL, black
seat clamp34,9 mm bolt clamp, black
pedalsnot included
weight13,5 kg
The information presented here is subject to change without notice.

Geometry
SizeSML  SML
offset bushingnonenonenone1 mm offset1 mm offset1 mm offset
example forkLyrik '14Lyrik '14Lyrik '14Lyrik '14Lyrik '14Lyrik '14
fork travel170 mm170 mm170 mm170 mm170 mm170 mm
fork + head set555 + 2 mm555 + 2 mm555 + 2 mm555 + 2 mm555 + 2 mm555 + 2 mm
top tube (reach)383 mm416 mm449 mm382 mm415 mm448 mm
top tube sloped505 mm536 mm567 mm505 mm536 mm567 mm
top tube horizontal569 mm601 mm637 mm570 mm602 mm638 mm
chain stay length426 mm426 mm426 mm426 mm426 mm426 mm
steering angle65,3°65,3°65,3°65,1°65,1°65,1°
seat angle (actual)69,8°69,8°69,8°69,6°69,6°69,6°
seat angle (effective)73,8°73,8°73,8°73,6°73,6°73,6°
head tube length130 mm130 mm140 mm130 mm130 mm140 mm
wheel base1126 mm1159 mm1192 mm1127 mm1160 mm1193 mm
seat tube length428 mm428 mm490 mm428 mm428 mm490 mm
bottom bracket height15 mm15 mm15 mm13 mm13 mm13 mm
The information presented here is subject to change without notice.

Frame Spec

HERB 160/180 Frame Platform

HERB 160 and 180 share the the same frame platform. They can be converted into each other by changing the rockers, the shock length remains the same. Effectively this converts your HERB 180 to a HERB 160 and vice versa. When changing the rocker not only the travel is changed, but also the geometry is adjusted appropriately and the suspension characteristics are changed a bit. The longer stroke version stays a bit more linear in the mid stroke, allowing the frame to deal better with medium hard impacts. At the end of stroke both systems get progressive but to a different degree. The 180 mm version is conceptioned more as a Freeride bike, while the 160 mm version is Enduro friendly. This means the 160 offers a maximum of suspension efficiency and feedback by using its limited travel in the best way. The 180 is optimized to handle really rough terrain providing DH bike alike performance in a package that can be pedaled up the hill easily.

Conversion Kit

 

Active Suspension Design

Linkage operated shock combined with a single pivot rear triangle. The linkage designs generates a linear beginning and mid stroke kinematics with progressive end of stroke ratio. This suspension characteristic is the optimum for excellent performance when not only suspension performance but also feedback from the bike counts. This characteristics gives you a better feeling for the bike and the ground, allowing to push through wobbles and to jump easily. We think the main suspension characteristics should be a result of the kinematics and not of the shock. Especially the air shock allows you to adjust the progression of the suspension system, but it can not be designed as freely as the kinematics of a linkage can. That´s why we believe kinematics should do the main job of defining suspension progression and the shock should be used to do the individual fine tune. Another important point is the pivot placement. Pivot palcement mainly affects two things, wheel path and climbing efficiency. Most hits on the rear wheel come from the bottom and from the front. Therefore it is desireable to have an upwards and rearwards wheel path. Generally this is difficult to achieve with any type of suspension design. Old school high pivot realize this quite well, but they are no option because of the pedal force inducing movements of the suspension. Our single pivot design, i. e. no additional pivot between the main pivot and the rear axle, provides a better wheel path than most other designs. The pivot placement – relatively high and before the bottom bracket – is crucial for that. This design results in a little extra weight, but increases the suspension performance noticeably. The exact placement of the main pivot is crucial for the climbing efficiency. We claim to have optimized that pretty well. Finally we believe that any additional pivot between the rear axle and the main pivot would reduce the stiffness of the frame and thus reduce it´s overall performance.

Active Suspension

 

Triple Dropouts

On this frame you can install three different rear axle Systems, all through axle systems. The standard version is 142×12 mm (compatible with X-12 standard wheels), the options are 150×12 mm through axlead 135×12 mm through axle,. To switch between the systems simply change the derailleur eye and the disc brake spacer. For the 150 mm option the disc brake spacer is removed. 150 mm rear wheels will give the bike additional stiffness by reducing the flex of the spokes.

Triple Dropouts

 

7000 series custom butted aluminum

The frame is designed without gussets because we use our very specially butted tube set. This design provides a clean look and supports the frame in highly stressed regions. Wall thickness on the rear triangle is specific for left and right side to handle brake and chain pull forces.

Kappa Surface

The surface of the welded and heat threated frame is ball burnished with balls of a specific size in order that the surface of the frame material is compressed. This compression leads to compression stress in the material. The compression stress changes the load factor Kappa, which leads to longer life of the frame structure.

C-Plus Bearings

Full complement bearings are used on all pivots. The additional balls provide a higher load capacity (C0 and Cdyn). The higher load capacity leads to greater stiffness and durability. To protect the bearings against corrosion, we decided to use stainless steel material. All bearings are cartridge type industrial grade bearings with two seals. Whenever possible the bearings are protected by the bolt heads and additional o-rings.

 

 Frame Standards and Dimensions

ModelHERB 160 / 180 (V1.1)
frame platformHERB 160 and 180 share the the same frame platform. They can be converted into each other by changing the rockers. The shock length remains the same.
sizessmall (150 - 170 cm), medium (168-180 cm), large (178 -198 cm)
coloursblack anodized frame, red anodized linkage and hardware
material7005 aluminum, custom butted, heat threated and ball burnished for less fatigue
rear travel160 / 180 mm, by switching rockers
max. fork travel180 mm
shock eye to eye216 mm
air volume settinghigh volume options preferred, no volume spacers recommended
compatible shocks 1
HERB 160 /180
Rock Shox Monarch Plus RC3 / RC, medium compression tune recommended, newer shocks all have the same rebound tune, older shocks require low rebound tune
compatible shocks 2
HERB 160 /180
Rock Shox Monarch RC3 / RC, medium compression tune recommended, newer shocks all have the same rebound tune, older shocks require low rebound tune
compatible shocks 3
HERB 160 /180
BOS VipR
compatible shocks 4
exclusively in 180 configuration
Rock Shox Vivid Air R2C, medium compression tune recommended, no volume reduction
shock hardware, top47,8 x 8 mm
shock hardware, bottom22,2 x 8 mm
seat post size31,6 mm diameter
seat post clamp size34,9 mm diameter
adjustable seat post cable guidesfor external cable and stealth configuration, cable enters seat tube above the bottom bracket, which means easy to handle cable routing
bearingssealed cartige bearings, full complement bearings
bearing sizes15 x 28 x 7 mm
head tubetapered style, 44 mm top, 56 mm bottom, entirely CNC machined
head set sizesemi integrated, 44 mm top, 56 mm bottom
compatible tire sizes26" up to 2,5-2,7", depending on tire and rim combination
disc mount standardInternat. Standard, max. 203 mm rotor
bottom bracket standardBSA, 73 mm
chain device mountISCG old and 2005, flush with bb shell face
Hammerschmidt compatibleyes
front derailleurShimano top swing only, for example FDM-970-10
rear axle12 mm through axle, included
hub width142 mm standard, optional 135 and 150 mm with special derailleur eye and disc brake spacer
The information presented here is subject to change without notice.

Setup Guide

 

Spring Stiffness

[LBS/inch]
Ideal rider weight

[kg]
25048
30058
35067
40077
45087
50096
550106
600115

Manuals

HERB 160/180 frames and bikes – User Guide – english and german (PDF-Document)

A full list of available manuals can be found here.

 

Press and Reviews

 

World of Mountainbike 03/2012 (Germany) – HERB 180 Trail (2012)

Read here what World of Mountainbike writes about the HERB 180.

Translated:

“Playful and agile is the first impression riding the LAST. On piste the soft and well shock absorbing rear is noticed at first. Small and medium bumps are handled with souvereignty, even big chunks rarely present problems to the rear suspension, thanks to good end progression. Even the big jumps in the bike park are mastered well by the HERB. … The air shocks keep the weight down, thus the LAST is the only bike sub 16kg – clearly sub 16kg – in the test field. … Slightly sketchy the feeling is during airtime because of the low weight – this needs a little courage from the rider.”

Conclusion: “Palyfull and lightweight multitalent, which is even more fun on blocked single trail compared to the bike park.

This is the original quote:

“Verspielt und agil ist der erste Eindruck, den uns das LAST vermittelt. Auf der Piste fällt sofort das softe und schluckfreudige Heck auf. Kleine bis mittelgroße Schläge werden souverän abgefedert, selbst große Brocken zwingen das Heck dank satter Endprogression nur selten in die Knie. Sogar die großen Sprünge im Park steckt das HERB locker weg. … Die Luftfederelemente halten das Gewicht niedrig, und so ist das LAST das einzige Bike, bei dem die Waage unter, ja, sogar deutlich unter 16 Kilo stehen bleibt. … Etwas unsicherer fühlt man sich jedoch aufgrund des geringeren Gewichts in der Luft – das erfordert etwas mehr Mut vom Fahrer.”

Fazit: “Verspieltes und leichtes Multitalent, das auf dem verblockten Singletrail noch mehr Spaß macht als im Bikepark.”

Our take on the test result:

Playfulness, agility and versatility – all paired up with a good suspension, we could not describe it any better. What makes us wonder is that the testers did not like a light bike in the air. Of course rotating mass will increase stability, but it will also reduce the ability to flick the bike around in an instance. With the 2014 HERB 180 beeing significantly lighter compared to the bike on test, we think this so called “problem of lightness” will increase futher. JF

In Action

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Pictures may show optional equipment, please see spec list for details.